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National
Seminar on
Worker's Rights in the
SAARC Social Charter
Organised by NEFAS/FES
July 21, 2002
A
one day seminar on the inclusion of the worker's rights
in the SAARC Social Charter was organised in Kathmandu
by Nepal Foundation for Advanced Studies in cooperation
with FES of Germany on July 21. The draft social charter
is being prepared at the moment by the Marga Institute
of Sri Lanka and it is reported that the worker has
not even been mentioned by it, although other social
issues have been comprehensively taken up. This was
the second time the worker's rights was being discussed
in Kathmandu with regard to the South Asian regional
organization. The select gathering of about forty people
concerned with labor unions, Industrial Relations Forum,
regional cooperation, political scientists, economists,
government officials, ILO representative and university
teachers discussed the plight of the laborers in South
Asia and Nepal at length and suggested some ways out
of the problem. After Ananda Srestha welcomed the participants
and presented some highlights of the seminar, Yadav
Kant Silwal, the former SAARC secretary general, who
also chaired the seminar said that the holding of the
meeting was timely. "The Council of Ministers are
meeting in August where the Social charter draft is
expected to be presented," he said.
Discussing the preparatory
stage of the draft charter, Mr. Silwal said that a clear
perception has not yet emerged as to what the charter
should contain, although SAARC has taken up many social
programs in the past fifteen years. "The perception
differs among the different countries. All the countries
feel that it needs to be discussed at the macro level.
But the problem is that trade unions are heavily politicized.
They need to evolve a common platform devoid of politics
and color which is dedicated to the worker. That has
not yet happened. We need to evolve a culture to make
that happen," he said.
He also pointed out the
need to create a power lobby to impress upon the seven
governments that there is a real need to include the
worker's rights in the social charter. "Today,
the charter has been drafted and although all the social
sectors have been included, the worker has been left
out," he said. According to Mr. Silwal it could
be that since all the social sectors have been included
in the social charter it might have been felt that the
worker is automatically included. "We could differ
on that perception," he said.
After the opening remarks
by the NEFAS executive director and the chairman of
the session Dev Raj Dahal made a presentation outlining
the state of social commitments of regional organizations
throughout the world. The paper was written by him and
Hari Uprety. He discussed the labor problems in South
Asia and also provided recommendations and the difficulties
of implementing those recommendations. The floor discussions
began after the presentation. Following are the excerpts
of the discussion:
FLOOR DISCUSSION
Dr.
Meena Acharya: We need to be a little more innovative.
There are two perspectives-- political and economic.
Although politically, it may make sense to talk about
worker's rights, economically, rights can be implementable
only when the labor resource becomes scarce, not when
it is abundant. Even in the developed state of the US
it is not the blue collar worker who is finding his/her
wages rise matching the economic growth. It is the higher
management people whose wages are rising unprecedently.
It is in this context, that rights should be discussed.
And in South Asia, we should ensure that worker's have
the right to work on minimum wage rather than looking
for other rights. Moreover,
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The first right
in the charter should be the right to work.
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Then the right to
be retrained and re-deployed.
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Right to social security,
health and so on.
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The responsibility
should be a joint social effort among, capital, labour
and the state, and implemented by the state.
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Responsibilities
that are not implementable because of non-compliance
by one party or the other should come under joint
implementation by all the three.
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In the international
bargaining for capital (FDI) the worker should be
included.
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Migrant labor rights
should be equal.
Prof. Guna Nidhi Sharma
(TU): The SAARC charter is just in the skeletal
phase and details are yet to be spelled out in the coming
SAARC meetings. We need to take note of the trends of
today while making the charter.
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Our negotiators should
be able to articulate the needs of our national labor.
Otherwise, our commitments will contradict each other,
just like signing both ILO conventions with one hand
and allowing the World Bank and International Monetary
Fund to dictate our policy with the other.
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We have formulated
policies to attract FDI and the worker's rights were
ignored. We have adopted a capital-biased perspective
on development.
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There are two perspectives
to what a social charter should do-- social protection
and social development. The one that came from Sri
Lanka (Marga Institute) talks about 'social development'
while there is also the 'social protection' aspect
that has yet to be included. The worker's need has
more to do with protection at the moment (sick leave,
their privileges etc.)
We should be taking note of the employment factor,
when we talk of labor rights. Only through employment
can we provide benefits to workers. But if we look
at the post-1990 scenario, unemployment is on the
rise which are shown by various reports. The government.
data are not privately believed even by people manning
responsible government agencies. Keeping people unemployed
makes them a liability.
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Nepal should focus
on articulating the needs of the laborers of the unorganised
sector which covers 80 per cent of the workers. Such
an approach may make our proposals unique. Because
of the size of the informal sector, efforts towards
self-employment can also be included in the charter.
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After employment,
comes the fair distribution of the benefits of employment.
Social benefits need to be defined and distributed
fairly.
Bishnu Rimal, (General-Secretary
of GEFONT): We need to be clear about the Nepalese
perspective and South Asian perspective. The social
charter should try to address the questions of
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Minimum wage in
South Asia.
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Land reform. Should
the land workers have their rights?
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What are the social
security and protection issues? We need to be clear
on that.
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We should also be
concerned about occupation hazards and include Occupation
Health and Safety measures.
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Unfair Labor Practices
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Code of Ethics for
Business and International Community
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Ethical Business
Practices
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Even the organised
sector is getting informalized by globalization. We
have started contracting out work, taking worker's
rights away from them.
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Corporate Citizenship.
There are new issues
coming to help the worker. We are talking about business
ethics which prompts consumers to boycott unethical
producers. Also, ILO declarations will have to be complied
if one is a UN member. Lastly, we blame the trade unions
for being political, but look at the factionalism among
employers- FNCCI and CNI- and we do not take it as political
because it is concerned with capital. The suppression
by employers is not taken as political only the actions
of the workers like strikes against injustice.
Solomon Rajbanshi
(ILO): ILO's strategic objectives include- employment
of men and women, social protection and social dialogue.
Should all the issues just be included in the charter
or a new declaration designed as some issues cannot
be included in the charter. For example, we give importance
to collective bargaining and social dialogue. ILO does
not believe in strikes, only dialogues. Nepal has recently
signed two new ILO conventions taking the total to nine
as of now.
Dr. Krishna B. Bhattachan
(TU): The SAARC itself makes unimplementable declarations.
Who is going to take it seriously when it says it will
make and implement the social charter? For example,
how could it promise to eradicate poverty by 2001 when
it very well knew that it was not possible?
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How representatives
are the people involved in drafting social charter?
How representative are the unions in South Asia?
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The charter does
not talk about indigenous people or the dalit. How
can it be social?
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Protection from caste-ethnic-gender
exploitation needs to be included.
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There are also other
sectors between the visible and invisible which are
very visible but are ignored, like prostitution.
We need to look at the
South Asian context while designing a charter. Metropolitan
laborers are considered free and satellite country laborers
are considered forced. India can be both free and forced
depending on whether you look at it globally or regionally.
Are the South Asian states democratic, or predatory?
Strong or weak? Disposable or indespensable? These factors
affect in having protection clauses. South Asia is heterogeneous.
How can a homogenous charter work is such a situation?
Hiranya Lal Shrestha
( former MP CPN- UML): There is a need to include
women and children's rights also in the SAARC social
charter.
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In Nepal, the irony
is that the government is giving out loans, in additions
to the worker's own loans and sale of his property,
to go outside the country for employment. The government
should be rather following a policy to keep foreign
workers out. Employment policy should always give
priority to the natives. Secondly when foreign workers
are to be brought in we can give priority to SAARC
laborers.
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We have to bring
change in the cultural outlook so that labor becomes
dignified, not marginalised. Without that labor rights
cannot be had.
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The gaps between
classes and genders need to be narrowed. Women need
to be given their rights.
The globally set standards of rights need to be applied
to SAARC.
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South Asian workers
are going to the Gulf countries, but we do not have
a labor attach there. Where our representatives are
not there, other SAARC nations should represent our
workers, just like the EU has started doing. There
are many cases of exploitation in the Gulf.
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In Hetauda, the MNCs
are not providing permanent employment, just contract
employment by taking the high and mighty in confidence.
There should be a SAARC level commitment to reduce
such exploitation.
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The labor issues
should be taken as a human right issue. I hope FES
raises the issue in other SAARC capitals as it has
its offices there too.
Dr. Posh Raj Panday
(WTO CELL): Labor can be talked only in terms of
capital. Capital follows the rate of return. So, we
should not be raising the cost of labor to such levels
that they are shunned altogether. After the Singapore
meet in 1996, WTO started talking about labor. If SAARC
commitments are non-binding, WTO commitments are. If
we make SAARC social commitments binding, the cost of
South Asian labor will be raised to uncompetitive proportions.
If we can take our social issues to the WTO for resolution
it might help but SAARC problems cannot be solved by
WTO as some South Asian countries are not yet members
of the WTO yet.
Umesh Upadhya (expert
on labor matters): The industrial revolution led
to the formalization of labor, while globalization led
to their disorganization.
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When a charter is
developed, it should be seen that the different unions
are made to participate and how democratized their
movement can be made.
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Democratization should
be the focus of the charter for the provisions to
be implementable.
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Migrant labor needs
to be regulated through the charter.
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The charter should
seek the ideal compromise between capital and labor.
Dr. Dwarika Dhungel
(Chairman, IIDS): We (IIDS) had provided the inputs
to the draft prepared by Marga Institute. Women, children
etc were included in the input we provided.
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First, Nepal and
India have an open border. When we talk of labor rights,
unlike other countries, Nepalese laborers, particularly
from west Nepal, go to India to work and a lot of
Indians come to Nepal for work. So labor issues are
unique here.
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Three hundred thousand
new laborers are added to Nepal from within the country
but we have a zero growth economy at present. How
do we provide employment in such a situation? This
should be taken into account in the charter? We may
talk of the SAARC situation, but how do we reconcile
about Nepal's needs here?
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How we protect our
laborers should be the first issue. Then only comes
capital and then only caste, ethnicity and gender.
Khilanath Dahal (
Vice-President, DECONT): We are trying to expand
our activities to the informal sector. We have seen
many labor problems, but we have been talking about
the workers according to the amount of work they do,
not according to their caste or ethnicity. About 90
per cent of workers are women. We are raising their
issues not because they are women, but because they
are workers. Similar is the case with the Dalits.
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On capital and labor,
labor is a domestic issue and capital is alien. We
are marginalising the domestic in pursuit of the alien.
Our first priority is to enhance the quality of our
labor. Even when quality labor is available in Nepal,
they have been shunned for foreign laborers (in the
case of technical experts).
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We also need to include
prostitution as a lot of Nepali girls are taken to
India.
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There are other forms
of bonded laborers in the Tarai, other than the Kamaiya,
barber is a case.
There is a clear bias
against laborers when they are blamed for being politicized.
This is not the case with labor issues, only on political
issues. Why are multinationals not being pro-labor?
Maybe it is because of state policy to accommodate them
and not because MNCs did not want to.
Nabin Chhetri (UNDP):
The charter may only be several pages long and it needs
to include the concerns of all the countries. But do
labor issues need to be looked at from the caste-ethnic
perspective as well. Not everything under the sun should
be looked upon like that. Workers should be seen from
the labor viewpoint, not caste or other perspective.
Dr. Durga Poudel (Development
Expert): Our laborers are getting exploited in foreign
countries. Many of them are jailed there. This is happening
because the companies that are sending them there are
not held responsible.
Dhurbahari Adhikari
(Senior Journalist): The enforceability issue is
important. But it should not mean that issues should
not be included if they cannot be enforced. May be if
the issues are included in the charter they may some
day be implemented. If it is not included, it will never
be implemented.
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Foreign employment
is being promoted even while we import laborers. Remittance
may be a good thing, but Nepalese laborers have so
far been doing dirty, dangerous and menial jobs without
much pay. If they are trained and sent abroad, the
remittance figures could be bigger.
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I do not agree to
the reservation issue. It should be a meritorious
system, not according to their ethnicity but according
to merit.
At the end of the discussion Dev Raj Dahal replied by
saying that he would incorporate the suggestions and
take them to the concerned place. He also said that
the state remains unbiased between capital and labor.
"It should have the capability to mediate between
the two and find out an equilibrium," he said.
After the reply by the
author, the chairman of the session, Yadav Kant Silwal
made his final remarks: There is no "mandate"
even with the Secretary General to include the worker's
rights in the charter. That is why you will not find
it in the draft. But it is important that we include
them as the discussions have shown. In August, Nepal
can propose that the issue be debated at the national
level (about the inclusion of the worker's rights in
the charter) in all the capital of South Asia. FES and
NEFAS can do more work through regional networking developed
from this particular event. Several of us can go to
the Prime Minister and ask him to get the August meet
to agree on national debates so that all the countries
can come out with their own concerns on the labor issue.
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